ANO
"The Committee for the Protection of the rights of owners of premises
apartment buildings in Yekaterinburg "
620014 , Moscow , ul. Radyshcheva 28 Tel : 381-44-54 ; 8-912-614-52-01 ,
8-929-216-16-58, E-mail: gluhov61@mail.ru
Technology deception by law
" Bender is just resting "
Good afternoon. Share their observations and the search for ways of obtaining money from the owners of residential premises in the area of public utilities.
heating
Cheating occurs when a refund upon the results of corrections board at the end of the heating season. This adjustment is made by the Government Decision Sverdlovsk region from 12.09.2012 , № 990 - PP ( Reason - PP RF № 857 dated August 27, 2012) .
Opted for a system of payment for each month of the heating season , the proposed RF PP number 857 dated August 27, 2012 , retaining two heating seasons norm established in 2012. Normative set of recommendations , excluding the current regulatory documents ( on a student - a finger , floor, ceiling ) .
Amazing ( unpunished ) the ability of REC and YLD : one - to break , and the second - to ignore the requirements of the Russian Federation from PP May 23, 2006 № 306 when establishing standard consumption of thermal resources. This is well illustrated by the standard thermal energy consumption of 0.033 Gcal per square . m of floor space . If you do not have a question about the dimension of the norm - you obviously missed the physics lessons in the 9th grade of high school. Norm must be " analog method " or " Calculation method" on separate groups of buildings and adjusted on the basis of the heating season. In determining the standard " Calculation method" for the estimated temperature of the environment is taken the average temperature for the period of 5-10 years preceding billing period . Certain " method of analogy " prefetching should consist of not less than 10 houses a single series , with similar design and technical parameters , the degree of improvement, located in similar climatic conditions , equipped obschedomovoe metered heat. By the end of the heating season is determined by the quantity consumed sample heat. The resulting value is divided by the number of households in the sample. Obtain an average value of thermal energy consumption . Excluded from the sample houses with deviation from the average thermal energy consumption by more than 20 %. It remains to divide the value obtained for the total area of the house , assuming that all the rooms are the same height .
Thus , it becomes possible to apply the standard of thermal energy per one square meter . Apply one standard for all series ( 30 ) houses and distribute and house other series that do not have obschedomovyh metering (and hence are not able to adjust payments for the heating season) is not just a fraud, and crime.
Adjustment payment for heating is done once a year by the formula application number 2 , paragraph 2 (3) PP RF May 23, 2006 № 307. The magnitude of the board ( RR) for heating, according to the testimony of a certain collective ( obschedomovyh ) metering devices installed in the apartment building during the heating period , divided by the total area of all premises in an apartment building or residential building (sq. m), multiplied by the total area ( sq. m.) one specific accommodation (apartments , commercial premises ) in an apartment building or a single dwelling house. From the obtained value is subtracted total amount of payment for each heating ( residential , non-residential ) premises . For example, in your home during the heating period and the difference shall be the amount that you need to return , if thermal energy consumption is less than accrued . But if the winter will be cold iiyuz ( set standard is exceeded ) you have to pay yourself .
What is cheating? Cheating - that the sum of the areas of the numerator and denominator of the different area ( characterized by the area of the facilities belonging to the common property of the owners of the ICM ) . Equity attributable to the total area of the property to be divided by the area of residential and non-residential premises , as they belong to all owners of premises on the right of share ownership . Otherwise they get CC. So, you are deceived twice. First time - by the advance payment ( provided dream Dmitry A. ) - lose bank interest . The second time - to adjust the payment at the end of the heating season.
water supply
To use RF PP 6 May 2011. № 354 " On the provision of public services to owners and users of space in apartment houses and homes " provided an exception standard consumption of utilities on obschedomovye needs and technological losses .
We estimate these standards .
With a simple arithmetic operation called subtraction set that standard consumption was laid on obschedomovye intake needs and technological losses of hot water at a rate of 1.01 cubic meters. m (5.02 - 4.01 ) and cold water - 0.77 cu. m ( 5.62 - 4.85 ), respectively. In monetary terms, prices in 2012 it was 1,01 × 66,27 = 66,93 rub. and 0,77 × 20,80 = 16,02 rub. respectively for 1 person per month, and in the amount of 66.93 + 16.20 = 83.13 rubles. or 997.56 rubles. for the year . And with the number of residents in Yekaterinburg at the end of 2012 1,396,074 people received 1,392,667,579 rubles. Not durstvenno ~ 1.4 billion rubles a year !
RF PP number 354 was so raw and unpolished , that the " ears " were delivered to the entire population of Russia . About 50 % of the regions have ignored the above ruling . Officials held a different opinion of the Sverdlovsk region and reported to the Regional Governor and the public about the successful resolution of the problems - March 6, Minister of Energy and Utilities Government of Sverdlovsk region Nikolai Borisovich Smirnov, and behind him - March 7 , and the head of administration of the governor Yakov Silin .
RF PP after number 354 PP launched Russian number 344 from April 16, 2013 " On Amendments to Certain Acts of the Russian Federation on the provision of public services ." But the new ordinance , " tailored in haste" does not solve the problems created by the first .
Officials and politicians from different stands, the media began to broadcast that meter readings can be removed once every 6 months. While the decree abolished fixed date meter readings (23-25 of the month ) and allowed to appoint another ( contractual ) date with notification of its change 30 days prior to application of the new date . Again there was a problem , not solved until now, with charging for public resources obschedomovye needs.
Think about it , we are all educated people : the resolution considers 3 cases consumption of utility resources obschedomovye needs: positive , zero or negative balance. In the case of :
positive balance is accrued on a total area of ( non-residential premises )
zero - charging is not performed,
negative balance recalculated by the number of registered persons in the room ,
while , is calculated by floor space .
That's where the shoe pinches !
It was assumed that the negative balance is formed due to the use of municipal resources in an amount less than the established norm , but it is possible and in the case where defaulters repay debt when contractual terms do not match the transmission of meter readings . Obviously, suffer odinokoprozhivayuschie .
Next deception.
Did you not question arises - Why ? when you see one or the other standard utilities consumption .
Than justified limiting the same standard (90 liters) of consuming cold ( hot) water per person per month for " obschedomovye needs" ? That adds up to 180 liters. If you live in the house 100 owners , then by multiplying 180 by 100 to get 18,000 liters , or 18 cubic meters. Is it too much to " obschedomovye needs" ?
Can I use 4.01 cubic meters of hot water, cold water if 4.85 cubic meters ? Everyone knows that modern washing machines, dishwashers and toilets work on the cold water, and the remainder must be diluted with water two times , if its parameters correspond to the established (60-75 ° C).
Dear consumers communal resources !
Did not you all know that you are the shareholders of " water utility " by the decision number 52/66 Yekaterinburg City Duma deputies 5th convocation of 27.11.2012 "On the establishment of price premiums ( rates) to consumers for goods and services provided by CBM "Water canal" in Yekaterinburg in 2013 . " Only instead of shares and dividends, you have shown great " Figo " , and then in his pocket. In tariffs for public resources is what is called " allowance for development" : from 01.07.2013 to 31.12.2013 year - 9.44 rubles. per cubic meter for cold water for process water - 0.31 rubles. , for sanitation - 4.85 rubles. , for the services of wastewater treatment - 2.03 rubles. What allowances will be established in 2014 , is not yet known . And what allowances in other cities , you ask? In Kamensk - Ualskom , for example - 1.26 rubles. , And in Kirov Kirov region - 1.10 rubles. As spent on the development of premium we know from 2010 . Equipment for the needs of " Water canal " , bought more than 90 million rubles, can be established only in 2019. The question arises, then you will need if all this equipment ? Detail - see attachment.
Why at 40 ° C hot water is considered "cold" , if in accordance with SNIP 2.1.4.2496-09 its temperature must be (60-75) ° C ( with fluctuations (3-5) ° C at night , in the morning ) . So , you need to recognize the cold water going from dispensing unit at a temperature less than 55 ° C. This will not overrun the hot water at the consumer.
How to explain charging an extra fee for the supply of cold and hot water in the presence of houses pumping water system as a board under " general building needs" for the electricity consumed by the pump swap ?
System pressure cold water in the taps in apartment buildings and homes should be - 0.03 MPa ( 0.3 kgf / sq. Cm) to 0.6 MPa (6 kg / sq . Cm)
The pressure in the hot water system at the draw in apartment buildings and homes should be - 0.03 MPa ( 0.3 kgf / sq. Cm) to 0.45 MPa ( 4.5 kgf / sq. Cm).
Untilled "Field of Fools" - tariffs for maintenance of common property owners of premises in apartment buildings and the local area .
Maintenance of common property - scope for management companies.
Resolution of the City Administration approves tariffs for tenants and tenants of residential premises of apartment buildings , which is taken for the owners of residential premises for the maintenance and repair of common property , if they are not approved tariff for the general meeting. No logic in the tariff structure . The tariff structure " housing maintenance " conditional (mostly CC set within the approved tariff administration without the consent of the owners of premises for individual components) . The average temperature in the hospital - the fee for cleaning of territory . It does not depend on the size of the local area , for example, owners of multi-storey building - a column in one entrance and multistory building has several entrances , with the same total area of MCD recommended the same rate for the maintenance of territory . In essence, the house territory and area of common areas inside the houses owners should contain only after registration of the ownership . The fee for the maintenance of common areas , structural elements and engineering infrastructure is not dependent on the design of apartment buildings , numbering about 30 species.
Reduced maintenance costs for apartment buildings - the main responsibility of the Criminal Code , but to change the structure of the tariff downward in most cases it does not agree. Can reduce the rate of , for example, the implementation of settlement services cheaper than the ICC directly CC 30-40% , except for the content of passport and visa service (since it is the state budget structure) , etc.
conclusion
It becomes apparent that in the Sverdlovsk region , the principle of Nikolai Borisovich Smirnov - Regional Minister of Energy and Utilities - " Running ahead of the engine " and make decisions on principle - three (3) P (finger - floor - ceiling) . He said this at a conference on urban housing sector in February 2012, before the introduction of the Russian Federation № 354 PP . Answering the question of the conference participants why the quantity of electricity consumption on obschedomovye needs should not exceed 30 % of the quantities consumed in the apartment , the answer was simple : " There will be many - reduce , will not be enough - add ". Decisions are made without first serious study and sufficient analysis of the consequences , do not pass inspection practice application.
Stroganov BD
"The Committee for the Protection of the rights of owners of premises
apartment buildings in Yekaterinburg "
620014 , Moscow , ul. Radyshcheva 28 Tel : 381-44-54 ; 8-912-614-52-01 ,
8-929-216-16-58, E-mail: gluhov61@mail.ru
Technology deception by law
" Bender is just resting "
Good afternoon. Share their observations and the search for ways of obtaining money from the owners of residential premises in the area of public utilities.
heating
Cheating occurs when a refund upon the results of corrections board at the end of the heating season. This adjustment is made by the Government Decision Sverdlovsk region from 12.09.2012 , № 990 - PP ( Reason - PP RF № 857 dated August 27, 2012) .
Opted for a system of payment for each month of the heating season , the proposed RF PP number 857 dated August 27, 2012 , retaining two heating seasons norm established in 2012. Normative set of recommendations , excluding the current regulatory documents ( on a student - a finger , floor, ceiling ) .
Amazing ( unpunished ) the ability of REC and YLD : one - to break , and the second - to ignore the requirements of the Russian Federation from PP May 23, 2006 № 306 when establishing standard consumption of thermal resources. This is well illustrated by the standard thermal energy consumption of 0.033 Gcal per square . m of floor space . If you do not have a question about the dimension of the norm - you obviously missed the physics lessons in the 9th grade of high school. Norm must be " analog method " or " Calculation method" on separate groups of buildings and adjusted on the basis of the heating season. In determining the standard " Calculation method" for the estimated temperature of the environment is taken the average temperature for the period of 5-10 years preceding billing period . Certain " method of analogy " prefetching should consist of not less than 10 houses a single series , with similar design and technical parameters , the degree of improvement, located in similar climatic conditions , equipped obschedomovoe metered heat. By the end of the heating season is determined by the quantity consumed sample heat. The resulting value is divided by the number of households in the sample. Obtain an average value of thermal energy consumption . Excluded from the sample houses with deviation from the average thermal energy consumption by more than 20 %. It remains to divide the value obtained for the total area of the house , assuming that all the rooms are the same height .
Thus , it becomes possible to apply the standard of thermal energy per one square meter . Apply one standard for all series ( 30 ) houses and distribute and house other series that do not have obschedomovyh metering (and hence are not able to adjust payments for the heating season) is not just a fraud, and crime.
Adjustment payment for heating is done once a year by the formula application number 2 , paragraph 2 (3) PP RF May 23, 2006 № 307. The magnitude of the board ( RR) for heating, according to the testimony of a certain collective ( obschedomovyh ) metering devices installed in the apartment building during the heating period , divided by the total area of all premises in an apartment building or residential building (sq. m), multiplied by the total area ( sq. m.) one specific accommodation (apartments , commercial premises ) in an apartment building or a single dwelling house. From the obtained value is subtracted total amount of payment for each heating ( residential , non-residential ) premises . For example, in your home during the heating period and the difference shall be the amount that you need to return , if thermal energy consumption is less than accrued . But if the winter will be cold iiyuz ( set standard is exceeded ) you have to pay yourself .
What is cheating? Cheating - that the sum of the areas of the numerator and denominator of the different area ( characterized by the area of the facilities belonging to the common property of the owners of the ICM ) . Equity attributable to the total area of the property to be divided by the area of residential and non-residential premises , as they belong to all owners of premises on the right of share ownership . Otherwise they get CC. So, you are deceived twice. First time - by the advance payment ( provided dream Dmitry A. ) - lose bank interest . The second time - to adjust the payment at the end of the heating season.
water supply
To use RF PP 6 May 2011. № 354 " On the provision of public services to owners and users of space in apartment houses and homes " provided an exception standard consumption of utilities on obschedomovye needs and technological losses .
We estimate these standards .
With a simple arithmetic operation called subtraction set that standard consumption was laid on obschedomovye intake needs and technological losses of hot water at a rate of 1.01 cubic meters. m (5.02 - 4.01 ) and cold water - 0.77 cu. m ( 5.62 - 4.85 ), respectively. In monetary terms, prices in 2012 it was 1,01 × 66,27 = 66,93 rub. and 0,77 × 20,80 = 16,02 rub. respectively for 1 person per month, and in the amount of 66.93 + 16.20 = 83.13 rubles. or 997.56 rubles. for the year . And with the number of residents in Yekaterinburg at the end of 2012 1,396,074 people received 1,392,667,579 rubles. Not durstvenno ~ 1.4 billion rubles a year !
RF PP number 354 was so raw and unpolished , that the " ears " were delivered to the entire population of Russia . About 50 % of the regions have ignored the above ruling . Officials held a different opinion of the Sverdlovsk region and reported to the Regional Governor and the public about the successful resolution of the problems - March 6, Minister of Energy and Utilities Government of Sverdlovsk region Nikolai Borisovich Smirnov, and behind him - March 7 , and the head of administration of the governor Yakov Silin .
RF PP after number 354 PP launched Russian number 344 from April 16, 2013 " On Amendments to Certain Acts of the Russian Federation on the provision of public services ." But the new ordinance , " tailored in haste" does not solve the problems created by the first .
Officials and politicians from different stands, the media began to broadcast that meter readings can be removed once every 6 months. While the decree abolished fixed date meter readings (23-25 of the month ) and allowed to appoint another ( contractual ) date with notification of its change 30 days prior to application of the new date . Again there was a problem , not solved until now, with charging for public resources obschedomovye needs.
Think about it , we are all educated people : the resolution considers 3 cases consumption of utility resources obschedomovye needs: positive , zero or negative balance. In the case of :
positive balance is accrued on a total area of ( non-residential premises )
zero - charging is not performed,
negative balance recalculated by the number of registered persons in the room ,
while , is calculated by floor space .
That's where the shoe pinches !
It was assumed that the negative balance is formed due to the use of municipal resources in an amount less than the established norm , but it is possible and in the case where defaulters repay debt when contractual terms do not match the transmission of meter readings . Obviously, suffer odinokoprozhivayuschie .
Next deception.
Did you not question arises - Why ? when you see one or the other standard utilities consumption .
Than justified limiting the same standard (90 liters) of consuming cold ( hot) water per person per month for " obschedomovye needs" ? That adds up to 180 liters. If you live in the house 100 owners , then by multiplying 180 by 100 to get 18,000 liters , or 18 cubic meters. Is it too much to " obschedomovye needs" ?
Can I use 4.01 cubic meters of hot water, cold water if 4.85 cubic meters ? Everyone knows that modern washing machines, dishwashers and toilets work on the cold water, and the remainder must be diluted with water two times , if its parameters correspond to the established (60-75 ° C).
Dear consumers communal resources !
Did not you all know that you are the shareholders of " water utility " by the decision number 52/66 Yekaterinburg City Duma deputies 5th convocation of 27.11.2012 "On the establishment of price premiums ( rates) to consumers for goods and services provided by CBM "Water canal" in Yekaterinburg in 2013 . " Only instead of shares and dividends, you have shown great " Figo " , and then in his pocket. In tariffs for public resources is what is called " allowance for development" : from 01.07.2013 to 31.12.2013 year - 9.44 rubles. per cubic meter for cold water for process water - 0.31 rubles. , for sanitation - 4.85 rubles. , for the services of wastewater treatment - 2.03 rubles. What allowances will be established in 2014 , is not yet known . And what allowances in other cities , you ask? In Kamensk - Ualskom , for example - 1.26 rubles. , And in Kirov Kirov region - 1.10 rubles. As spent on the development of premium we know from 2010 . Equipment for the needs of " Water canal " , bought more than 90 million rubles, can be established only in 2019. The question arises, then you will need if all this equipment ? Detail - see attachment.
Why at 40 ° C hot water is considered "cold" , if in accordance with SNIP 2.1.4.2496-09 its temperature must be (60-75) ° C ( with fluctuations (3-5) ° C at night , in the morning ) . So , you need to recognize the cold water going from dispensing unit at a temperature less than 55 ° C. This will not overrun the hot water at the consumer.
How to explain charging an extra fee for the supply of cold and hot water in the presence of houses pumping water system as a board under " general building needs" for the electricity consumed by the pump swap ?
System pressure cold water in the taps in apartment buildings and homes should be - 0.03 MPa ( 0.3 kgf / sq. Cm) to 0.6 MPa (6 kg / sq . Cm)
The pressure in the hot water system at the draw in apartment buildings and homes should be - 0.03 MPa ( 0.3 kgf / sq. Cm) to 0.45 MPa ( 4.5 kgf / sq. Cm).
Untilled "Field of Fools" - tariffs for maintenance of common property owners of premises in apartment buildings and the local area .
Maintenance of common property - scope for management companies.
Resolution of the City Administration approves tariffs for tenants and tenants of residential premises of apartment buildings , which is taken for the owners of residential premises for the maintenance and repair of common property , if they are not approved tariff for the general meeting. No logic in the tariff structure . The tariff structure " housing maintenance " conditional (mostly CC set within the approved tariff administration without the consent of the owners of premises for individual components) . The average temperature in the hospital - the fee for cleaning of territory . It does not depend on the size of the local area , for example, owners of multi-storey building - a column in one entrance and multistory building has several entrances , with the same total area of MCD recommended the same rate for the maintenance of territory . In essence, the house territory and area of common areas inside the houses owners should contain only after registration of the ownership . The fee for the maintenance of common areas , structural elements and engineering infrastructure is not dependent on the design of apartment buildings , numbering about 30 species.
Reduced maintenance costs for apartment buildings - the main responsibility of the Criminal Code , but to change the structure of the tariff downward in most cases it does not agree. Can reduce the rate of , for example, the implementation of settlement services cheaper than the ICC directly CC 30-40% , except for the content of passport and visa service (since it is the state budget structure) , etc.
conclusion
It becomes apparent that in the Sverdlovsk region , the principle of Nikolai Borisovich Smirnov - Regional Minister of Energy and Utilities - " Running ahead of the engine " and make decisions on principle - three (3) P (finger - floor - ceiling) . He said this at a conference on urban housing sector in February 2012, before the introduction of the Russian Federation № 354 PP . Answering the question of the conference participants why the quantity of electricity consumption on obschedomovye needs should not exceed 30 % of the quantities consumed in the apartment , the answer was simple : " There will be many - reduce , will not be enough - add ". Decisions are made without first serious study and sufficient analysis of the consequences , do not pass inspection practice application.
Stroganov BD
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