Passion on the VAT

Putin instructs to continue to study proposals for the withdrawal from the practice of the VAT refund
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin instructed the Federal Tax Service, along with several other agencies to continue the analytical work associated with the proposals to abolish the practice of the VAT refund.During the meeting with the head of the Federal Tax Service Mikhail Mishustin Putin asked how M.Mishustin relates to proposals to withdraw from any VAT refund."I think they should be considered comprehensively. Without a doubt, you need to look lost income in the case of proposals - how can we ensure that expenditure commitments of the budget. Such proposals should be considered. Without a doubt, any ideas should be developed, calculated," - said Head of the Federal Tax Service.He stressed that in terms of income, "VAT is a rather serious interest in ensuring the federal budget." "You know that in the consolidated budget, I've already reported, the bulk of the income tax take, and the value added tax, tax on mining - is serious enough taxes in the consolidated budget of the country" - said M.Mishustin."Go on, please do this work together with the Ministry of Finance, Economic Development, other colleagues and the expert community" - commissioned premieres. "Separately and then meet again, poobsuzhdaem this topic," - said Putin.Source
 The debate on VATAlexei Kudrin and VAT25 JUNE 2008 in the article Suzanne Camara, "Kudrin Fire," published in Gazete.ru, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, the newly undertook to protect VAT arguing that "the reduction in VAT - is absolutely destructive decision."Fire Kudrin

JUNE 25, 16:14 / / Suzanne Camara
 Despite the promise of reduced VAT, the president of this business, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin insisted that to do so in any case impossible. It is destructive and can only worsen the economy overheating and rising prices. Instead, reduce the income tax, the minister said. Business and Economic Development in the exchange do not agree."Reduction of VAT - a decision totally destructive," - Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin said at the conference "Tax policy in the choice of the development of Russia." He made his statement the next day after President Dmitry Medvedev issued a budget message, which promised that the VAT reduction will take place. However, the President does not have any dates or quantities to reduce the tax rate.Kudrin has always been an opponent to reduce VAT. This tax - the most reliable source of replenishment, never tires of reminding the minister. However, after the former president, Vladimir Putin, followed by spring and Dmitry Medvedev expressed the need for reform of the tax, Kudrin has become more loyal, speaking only against hasty timing and depth of the decline. He insisted only that the VAT can not be lowered to 10-12% within two years, as required by the business. But now the categorical statement by the Minister again: to reduce the VAT should not in principle.He brings new arguments in favor of such a decision. VAT - the tax-neutral, and the change in its rates will not lead to a restructuring of the economy. If such taxes and fees, as severance tax, export duties and taxes on profits can fluctuate under the influence of various factors, the VAT taxes will grow steadily, which is important for the stability of the budget system. They will remain at 3.7% of GDP, says Finance Minister.The minister also stressed that the VAT is a consumption tax, and in recent years the Russian economy is growing mainly due to growth in consumption. "Domestic production can not fully meet the growing demand in this regard is the significant increase in imports - 40% per year" - said Kudrin. The high demand in Russia is caused by rising oil prices, rather than increasing production. "In a significant advance of demand over supply reduction in the tax burden may increase the gap and create additional risks. This means not cool overheated economy, and there pour kerosene ", - concluded the Minister.Solidarity with the Minister of many experts. "Reducing the VAT rate from 18% to 12% is detrimental to the country", - considers the scientific director of the State University - Higher School of Economics Yevgeny Yasin. Under conditions of high inflation and increasing government spending VAT reduction - the wrong measure, it is best to allocate funds from the levy of this tax to increase the wages of public sector employees, says the economist. Specialists of the International Monetary Fund also said that reducing the tax rates would be contrary to international trends. "The Russian VAT taxes less other needs radical reform, and its replacement with a sales tax would be" a step backward, "the conclusion of the IMF. The organization's experts believe that the imperfections of VAT is only associated with problems in its administration and, above all, long delays in compensation. "This is an especially heavy burden for exporters and companies with large investments," - economists say. Thus, priority should be to overcome this problem.Instead of reducing the VAT to 12-13%, Kudrin proposes to focus on improving the administration of this tax, as well as to reduce the income tax.In the next three years, revenue from income taxes will decline because of rising rates and rising costs of enterprises, as well as a lack of productivity growth, predicts Kudrin. According to him, the development of tax policy in the world today is such a path: the last ten years in many countries, increased VAT and continues to rise, it reduces the income tax.But business at the exchange does not agree. The effect, which gives the VAT reduction is not achieved by alternative methods, including reduction of income tax, according to deputy chairman of the Tax Committee of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, Sergey Belyakov. "To ensure the preservation of the enterprises of the same amount, income tax will be reduced to 9%. I do not think the authorities would do it, especially when you consider that this is not a federal tax (from 24% tax rate only 6.5% goes to the federal budget, the remaining 17.5% - in the regional. - BBC) » - he said.He does not agree with the statement that the VAT - the tax-neutral. Its decline is just aimed at ensuring economic restructuring. "Reducing VAT will create an incentive for the development of processing enterprises in the woodworking machinery and light industry, reduce the load in the implementation of investment projects", - said Belyakov. A reduction of income tax benefit primarily lucrative oil and gas companies.Focus on global trends, too, is meaningless, says the expert, as the Russian economy are very different tasks.The opinion is shared by businesses in the Ministry of Economic Development. "We need to unify the VAT rate of 12%," - said Deputy Minister of Economic Development Stanislav Voskresensky at the tax conference. He also noted that as a result of this step is the collection of VAT could rise from the current 67-69%, so that within four years, we "will come to zero budget losses."It seems to resolve the fundamental dispute between the Ministry of Finance on the one hand and business and the Ministry of Economic Development, on the other only by the principal arbitrators.
In this regard, I propose to read the discussion on the issue of VAT, which was held at the Forum of the newspaper "Izvestia" in 2006, and again to evaluate the arguments expressed by Alexei Kudrin, in defense of the VAT.The story of how "democratic" to straighten out dissent in our news.Judge for yourself:http://www.izvestia.ru/forum/board45/topic18189?print=1
NewsModeratorTHE ROLE OF VAT IN THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY.To benefit from the value added tax?
· Vitaly Glukhov (07/10/2006 21:07)-----http://www.izvestia.ru/cfin/tmpl-art/id_art-Vitaly GlukhovBeginnerGuerrillas from the Ministry of Finance.The debate about the fate of VAT between different officials have highlighted a very different side of contemporary reality. It turns out our officials, and especially of such agencies as the Ministry of Finance, prefer to guerrilla warfare. So give comments incognito, and vague, like a pass coded information. "As told reporters yesterday a senior source at the Ministry of Finance - reported to his readers the newspaper" News Time "- reduced VAT rates will spur inflation, cause deformation of the tax burden on industry and imported goods creates a competitive advantage over Russian ones. The impact of lower VAT on economic growth is not so clear, confident in the Finance Ministry. ""Treasury does not support the introduction of progressive income tax scale, high-ranking official told reporters at the Finance Ministry of Russia. - Told RIA "News" - "The government is not a single person who would support this view," - said the source. According to him, "flat rate income tax on individuals was not supported by society as a whole, but this is seriously a long time and no one is to doubt."Who, one wonders, need these anonymous posts? However Bole, which issued the approval is not proved, but simply declared as the ultimate truth. With the same success can state that if there is a reduction in VAT, the moon come down to Earth. And most importantly, what gems give out literature, "The impact of lower VAT on economic growth is not so clear, confident in the Finance Ministry." It turns out that they are confident in ambiguity. Just Philosophers ... Socrates. They surely know that they know nothing.If, however, to evaluate the application of high-ranking guerrilla Treasury essentially, it is possible to draw conclusions about his qualifications as a financier. First, given the guerrillas did not understand what the cost, the cost is never added, and the difference between the cost of the price. Secondly, it is unclear why it is necessary to be afraid of deformation (in Russian words - to change) tax burden on industry. Judging by the state of our economy, it needs to be done. To transfer the tax burden from industries producing commodity, in order to save the country from dependence on raw materials. Third, perversely interprets inflation. How can a reduction in VAT fuel inflation? And did. If we start from the classical understanding of what inflation - the excess money on commercial products, it is absolutely clear what justifies the guerrillas minfinovsky his statement. Indeed, reduction of VAT will lead to cheaper goods and, consequently, the strengthening of the ruble, and not to its depreciation. And, why, the reduction of VAT, will suddenly imported goods an advantage over Russian ones? Russian manufacturers are free from predatory taxes, and imports, from which all take and customs duties, will receive the benefits. It also remains a mystery.It seems that a high-ranking guerrillas from the Ministry of Finance is not there and not to the student. Or that it is quite possible, as hides his name - just lying, trying to mislead people. But in either case they should not believe.
-----Editor of the site "Politucheba"QQQQQQQQQQQQ QWELong-liverJust do what you are beguiled - VAT and income are two different things!
-----"Do not be afraid of difficulties," Mao Tse-tung.LaskeraLong-liverOh, Ilya wrote the post - and you're ahead. :-) God's gift to the eggs ...AbdullaLong-liverGlukhov! You yourself, "it is" written, or blew from somewhere? If you blow off - specify the author, because the person writing this nonsense need to know. Well, if you have written ...Vitaly GlukhovBeginnerAbdullah to make such statements should be considered on the merits, and not unfounded to assert that my message is similar to delirium, and not in the form of a naked denial, but on the basis of my statements and assumptions. You, Abdullah, I'm looking at getting into all Kalashny number, all trying to look good, but it seems that you will not be able to do this, in view of lack of education, (rudeness of you and rushing), poor education (well-informed citizens to dismantle substance) and it seems that more and bad heredity (people who respect themselves do not undertake to judge what you do not understand).
(Message edited by Vitaly Glukhov 11.07.2006 - 22:17)-----Editor of the site "Politucheba"LukeLong-liverMr. Glukhov, probably one of the geniuses of the new economic thinking. At least, he claims to be "close" some of the important provisions of the modern economic theory, such as "added value".
Mr. Glukhov announce these things the notion of a non-existent, and encourages employees to learn from the Finance Ministry had to distinguish between value and price - apparently believing that he knows the difference between value and price.
The opening of these things are great.
However, Mr. Glukhov few too brief in support of this truly revolutionary situation. He may deign to enlighten us on this fresh and very promising in terms of economic theory ideas?
-----LukeGluckLong-liverNo, well, let's vsezhtaki popytaemso vChLENit sensible thoughts:A. Reduced VAT rates should lead not to an increase in inflation, but to reduce it. This is quite a reasonable idea, since the price of goods or services at lower rates should fall. (Must-it certainly has, but drops it?)Two. The claim that the VAT rate will decrease benefits for imported goods is somewhat delusional. If the rate is uniform, then it acts on any product, regardless of country of origin. Competitive advantages for importers can only arise as a consequence of the ruble, but if both inflation and a single rate of VAT and import growth of competitive advantage, then just get lost.Three. The shift of tax burden from manufacturing and processing industries in the production side - is obviously a necessary step. This is an outrageous disgrace that the objects are predominantly export syrenvye resources, rather than the products of their processing. Well Oil & Gas, but the export of unprocessed timber - a clear sign that the tax burden should be redistributed.MojaheadLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 10.07.2006 - 21:07... A senior Finance Ministry - says to his readers the newspaper "News Time" - reduced VAT rates will spur inflation, cause deformation of the tax burden on industry and imported goods creates a competitive advantage over Russian ones. The impact of lower VAT on economic growth is not so clear, confident in the Finance Ministry. ""Treasury does not support the introduction of progressive income tax scale, high-ranking official told reporters at the Finance Ministry of Russia. - Told RIA "News" - "The government is not a single person who would support this view," - said the source. According to him, "flat rate income tax on individuals was not supported by society as a whole, but this is seriously a long time and no one is to doubt."Alternatively, copy-paste zakolodilo or Mr. Editor does not understand something, either here on the forum - some morons (though, so just Svarog says).
"In the garden - elder, in Kiev - the guy." This - not saying it is - a brief summary of the post V. Glukhov.
P.S. I'm warned, Vitali, that is - people are toothed. Will eat and not pomorschatsya. And judging here - not for regalia, and by the posts. In this case, your editorship, and the pride they have and you come out sideways. Now anyone has the moral right to leisurely to say: "With such and such lyapami - and the editor ..."You can not ignore the obvious! (C), Ishaq Mujahideen ...LukeLong-liverQuote: Gluck wrote 11.07.2006 - 9:47.... The shift of tax burden from manufacturing and processing industries in the production side - is obviously a necessary step. This is an outrageous disgrace that the objects are predominantly export syrenvye resources, rather than the products of their processing. Well Oil & Gas, but the export of unprocessed timber - a clear sign that the tax burden should be redistributed.Actually, as I understand it, these things are governed by rates of import duties and VAT rates are not (which is refunded to importers in the implementation of foreign trade). But ... this is a subtle tool, there would be maybe more crazy than the government and the Duma is today. I think so.LukeLaskeraLong-liverLuke, why do we import duties,? Export duties. And the VAT returns to exporters. When the goods are exported.Import duties (to increase) their goods guard.AbdullaLong-liverGlukhov!As you can see the absurdity of your position, its internal contradictions, the discrepancy is your stated topic, obvious errors, etc. noticed by many.To address the issue on the merits - its slduet to start to deliver. I have question in your post, I do not see. I see only a set of words.However, if you have any questions on VAT (as well as for personal income tax) - ready to respond on the merits. Just ask specifically and correctly.However, the response to Luke - to match the text of Mr. Glukhov. Mujahid said is true: in the garden elder, in Samara - guy :-)LukeLong-liverQuote: Laskera wrote 11.07.2006 - 12:19Luke, why do we import duties,? Export duties. And the VAT returns to exporters. When the goods are exported.Import duties (to increase) their goods guard.I'm sorry. Razumseetsya, export prices had in mind Ekport taxes - that is, fees charged to exporters in the implementation of foreign trade transactions. They are different for different product groups.(Message edited by Luke 11.07.2006 - 13:14)LukeReaderLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 6:26You, Abdullah, I look at all getting into a number of galoshAbdulla, of course - a pig, but he climbs, still in Kalashny number (where the bread is baked). In some galosh to do nothing. In rezinoizdeliyah he does not need as was emasculated in early youth. As part of the emigration process.Vitaly GlukhovBeginnerCost - is the time socially necessary to produce a certain product, for a given labor productivity, and price - is the value expressed in money. That is why the value can not be, and the added price is acceptable.The fact that the price deviates from the value, and that these are different concepts, it is acceptable painted in classical political economy.Editor of the site "Politucheba"Vitaly GlukhovBeginnerAt the forum, it seems like the government - with estimates of VAT, nothing is clear. One gets the impression that the speakers of all the gentlemen just want to confuse. Fradkov also advocated a reduction in VAT to 13% (13% of these, just a magic number for members of the government), but did not say anything about to whom and for whom the lower lift. Kudrin said that the change in VAT to 13%, worsen the plight of those who pay at a reduced rate - 10%, although Fradkov and did not affect the beneficiaries, but immediately offered to introduce a single VAT rate of 15% since 2009. It seems that nobody wants to talk frankly and simply create the illusion concerns the state of affairs. I think that in a free discussion, it makes no sense to repeat the approach the government.Kudrin also arguments in defense of the VAT rates, can not withstand criticism. His statement that the reduction in VAT will lead to inflation, as half a trillion rubles will be "thrown" into the economy is ridiculous. After all, if the state will remove or reduce VAT, the more likely the opposite will happen. There will be a strengthening of the ruble. Increase its purchasing power, as cheaper goods and services previously sold with VAT. Today, all enterprises have to increase the price of their goods, the amount of VAT that they, and transfer to the budget. For businesses, VAT - this is the additional costs and additional costs for consumers. With the reduction of VAT, unless you consider the possibility of monopolization of the scope, simply push down prices of commodities, and thus increase the purchasing power of the ruble(Message edited by Vitaly Glukhov 11.07.2006 - 23:02)
Editor of the site "Politucheba"MojaheadLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 22:49The fact that the price deviates from the value, and that these are different concepts, it is acceptable painted in classical political economy.Well, tady - bazaar there. All agree?P.S. Vitaly! You can continue to sign up as editor of "Politucheba." With you - all clear. This is the bald PROELA politucheba me another 25 years. Come, sir, in the ass - with his ever-rancid campaign materials ...
You can not ignore the obvious! (C), Ishaq Mujahideen ...LukeLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 22:49Cost - is the time socially necessary to produce a certain product, for a given labor productivity, and price - is the value expressed in money. That is why the value can not be, and the added price is acceptable.The fact that the price deviates from the value, and that these are different concepts, it is acceptable painted in classical political economy.Brilliant! Simply brilliant! What an elegant and simple solution to all problems existing in economic theory and in practice the economy!The cost is the time - and all! And immediately fall all the questions about the costs of production, labor force as a commodity, the surplus (added) value, the only source which can be a living work of ... and the very concept of labor in such a setting such as the side of the issue is! Thus, the nature of the questions are removed profits, capital, distribution of surplus product, and along with issues of supply and demand, monopoly and competition, the nature of the crises of commodity production. As well as remain on the sidelines and property issues, commercial and financial capital, and many other questions!Mr. Glukhov, certainly deserves the highest estimation as an outstanding representative of modern economic thought. Hooray, Mr. Glukhov! Viva!
LukeMojaheadLong-liverWarned after all - and do not devour pomorschatsya ...
You can not ignore the obvious! (C), Ishaq Mujahideen ...LukeLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 22:57... if the state would remove or reduce VAT, the more likely the opposite will happen. There will be a strengthening of the ruble. Increase its purchasing power, as cheaper goods and services previously sold with VAT. Today, all enterprises have to increase the price of their goods, the amount of VAT that they, and transfer to the budget. For businesses, VAT - this is the additional costs and additional costs for consumers. With the reduction of VAT, unless you consider the possibility of monopolization of the scope, simply push down prices of commodities, and thus increase the purchasing power of the rubleMr. Glukhov, I'm not interested Kudrin and his predictions. But it is not because these forecasts are illiterate, but only because ou come from the wrong, in my view, the theoretical assumptions - which are not fully refuted so far. These projections are, in my opinion, are not viable, and the dispute is entirely political in nature, reflecting the struggle behind the scenes and ekporno importnoorientirovannyh industry and groups representing those in the government or other interests.However, I wonder your insolence with which you undertake to talk about things that do not understand anything.You may not know the concept of added stomosti nor the essence of the tax charged to this cost, nor the mechanism of calculation and payment of the tax laws or pricing. Meanwhile, You talk about these things, which are fairly complex economic mechanism, fifth-grader with aplomb, the reasoning of a woman's love.
Dare to give you advice - be modest! Then maybe you will not look so ridiculous and silly - especially when combined with a signature under your posts. You wonderful people have turned away from accessing your site.
LukearmirLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 6:26Abdullah to make such statements should be considered on the merits, and not unfounded to assert that my message is similar to delirium, and not in the form of a naked denial, but on the basis of my statements and assumptions. You, Abdullah, I'm looking at getting into all Kalashny number, all trying to look good, but it seems that you will not be able to do this, in view of lack of education, (rudeness of you and rushing), poor education (well-informed citizens to dismantle substance) and it seems that more and bad heredity (people who respect themselves do not undertake to judge what you do not understand).And what respect (self respect) is inherited?This finding, too, is worthy of publication.AbdullaLong-liverQuote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 22:57For businesses, VAT - this is the additional costs and additional costs for consumers. With the reduction of VAT, unless you consider the possibility of monopolization of the scope, simply push down prices of commodities, and thus increase the purchasing power of the rubleGlukhov! What you do not understand a damn thing in any economy, no taxes - in itself is not terrible. In the majority of them nasedleniya damn do not understand.It is terrible that you are sure that you know. Militant amateurism - nasty stuff.If you are asked to explain something to you, asked a question, you could learn a lot. But you think you know everything so that they can teach others?In this case, you will excuse me, deserve only ridicule.Remember! Value added is measured by a conventional price. But the nature it has no relation to the price.VAT - is not "cost the company." VAT - the so-called "Indirect tax", it always pays to the end user. But at last a deep ... Whether sitting in the VAT rate or not. If he is now willing to pay that price, he will pay it, even if it does not include VAT. Therefore, only a fool could rasszhudat that the abolition of VAT will lead to lower prices. It never was and never will in any country in the world.And the last one."Fools" from the Ministry of Finance, unlike you "smart" do not talk about VAT abstract. Reduced VAT rates by 1% - of the tens of billions of rubles of federal budget revenues. That, from which are paid salaries and pensions of civil servants, which contains the army and police, some education and medicine. If it is lower, so need to raise some other tax to offset budget losses. What? And how, at what cost? After VAT - the most transparent and most collect taxes.You are good in all this better than anyone else?Well, then, and talk to himself! Where are we up to you! :-)Vitaly GlukhovBeginnerThe cost is the time - and all! And immediately fall all the questions about the costs of production, labor force as a commodity, the surplus (added) value, the only source which can be a living work of ... and the very concept of labor in such a setting such as the side of the issue is! Thus, the nature of the questions are removed profits, capital, distribution of surplus product, and along with issues of supply and demand, monopoly and competition, the nature of the crises of commodity production. As well as remain on the sidelines and property issues, commercial and financial capital, and many other questions!Mr. Glukhov, certainly deserves the highest estimation as an outstanding representative of modern economic thought. Hooray, Mr. Glukhov! Viva!However, I wonder your insolence with which you undertake to talk about things that do not understand anything.You may not know the concept of added stomosti nor the essence of the tax charged to this cost, nor the mechanism of calculation and payment of the tax laws or pricing. Meanwhile, You talk about these things, which are fairly complex economic mechanism, fifth-grader with aplomb, the reasoning of a woman's love.Dare to give you advice - be modest! Then maybe you will not look so ridiculous and silly - especially when combined with a signature under your posts. You wonderful people have turned away from accessing your site.Luke wrote.Luke, first, a proper understanding of the cost of just clarify to what relationships are all of the above, it is unclear just why, you have the concept. Instead, the analysis of the VAT on the economy, you are plunged into a senseless enumeration of political economy concepts. Apparently, you want to look good?You are a clever professor Luke! Do not you think that all your efforts, I deprecate the indiscriminate, useless. The theme of the VAT is not interested in simple layman who is willing to believe you just that, well, anything Glukhov uncomprehending dumb reasoning about complex economic mechanism. And for those who wish to participate in the discussion of this issue, you are not interested, with his naive efforts. They are important to understand the essence of the question, to clarify who you are, but to claim that it is difficult, to say nothing can. And that's you in this situation, look silly, because wasting time on nonsense, in your opinion.(Message edited by Vitaly Glukhov 12/07/2006 - 08:03)
Editor of the site "Politucheba"Vitaly GlukhovBeginnerAbdullah is not claiming to be the scholar Luke, and then tried to say in essence, however, unsuccessful.Remember! Value added is measured by a conventional price. But the nature it has no relation to the price.Strange you guys! Measured by the price, but has no relation to the price.VAT is directly affected by and involved in the price. And even here there is nothing to discuss.VAT - is not "cost the company." VAT - the so-called "Indirect tax", it always pays to the end user. But at last a deep ... Whether sitting in the VAT rate or not. If he is now willing to pay that price, he will pay it, even if it does not include VAT. Therefore, only a fool could rasszhudat that the abolition of VAT will lead to lower prices. It never was and never will in any country in the world.VAT is considered as the direct costs of the manufacturer, as part of working capital withdraws, as the account to buy products at a higher price. In fact, consumption itself should be seen primarily as industrial consumption.In contrast, Abdullah, I not only l think, but I know, and this confirms it any manufacturer and is more or less educated economist, that the consumer has never been indifferent to the size of the price of the goods, and that depends on the price and the sale of these goods. If the bikes at a price of 10,000 rubles apiece will buy, say, 500 per month, the same bike at a price of 5000 rubles - will buy more.In conditions where there is no monopolization, reducing costs, including taxes such as VAT, necessarily lead to lower prices, which is governed by the rate of profit."Fools" from the Ministry of Finance, unlike you "smart" do not talk about VAT abstract. Reduced VAT rates by 1% - of the tens of billions of rubles of federal budget revenues. That, from which are paid salaries and pensions of civil servants, which contains the army and police, some education and medicine. If it is lower, so need to raise some other tax to offset budget losses. What? And how, at what cost? After VAT - the most transparent and most collect taxes.Abdullah, already a resident of the Chukchi settlements is clear that the government collects taxes, not in order to best organize our lives, and for his own benefit, a clear confirmation of the presence of the Stabilization Fund. So do not spread over the pensions and salaries. In this case, no clear link. Therefore, our standard of living depends, probably not on how much the state collects taxes, and how many will leave.
 Editor of the site "Politucheba"GluckLong-liverQuote from: Luke wrote 11.07.2006 - 23:14Quote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 11.07.2006 - 22:49Cost - is the time socially necessary to produce a certain product, for a given labor productivity, and price - is the value expressed in money. That is why the value can not be, and the added price is acceptable.The fact that the price deviates from the value, and that these are different concepts, it is acceptable painted in classical political economy.Brilliant! Simply brilliant! What an elegant and simple solution to all problems existing in economic theory and in practice the economy!In his pryntsipe, the cost of such an interpretation can be found in Kropotkin in "Memoirs of a revolutionary." There is a very interesting part on the Swiss anarchists, who, unlike other revolutionary elements were actively engaged in creative work, while the revolutionary constructs theoretically reduced to a cup or mug. What is surprising is, in their bulk, were men of skilled labor with a good income (including watchmakers), and for all that they were willing (even at the level of theory) to balance his work with unskilled labor.Takshta cost of such a treatment has a long history. Later, similar ideas of political economy indulged in a variety of regular left.GluckLong-liverThat there has been a key here vaprots - Will reduce the VAT rate to lower the price of goods or services? In the bare theory should lead to lower prices, but I fear that in practice this does not happen.Or rather, will happen only where competition is particularly acute form, for example, in trade of household appliances. In all other cases, I fear the effect will be either zero or hardly noticeable to the end user.SkeptikLong-liverQuote: Gluck wrote 12.07.2006 - 9:30That there has been a key here vaprots - Will reduce the VAT rate to lower the price of goods or services?It is noteworthy that the increase in VAT rates will lead to an increase in prices is unique, and that is what will decrease - vaprots ;-)LukeLong-liverSkeptik, you're absolutely right - this is a big question.The fact that the VAT is calculated and paid predpriyatiemi and organizations as the difference between the VAT on which an enterprise PAYING consumed in the production of goods and services and the VAT which an enterprise receives for the sale of goods and services.The company in the manufacturing process consumes energy and materials, communicates, receives and transmits a variety of information. For all this, the company dress, and in the composition of this board is the share of VAT.As a result of the company formed a product or service, with its value and price. The realization of this product or service enterprise shall allocate the price of goods VAT (details and exceptions will not go, because the law on this subject is quite extensive and quite difficult).At the end of the reporting period (month or quarter) ENTERPRISE summarizes all the VAT that it paid on essential goods and services, and all the VAT that it has received for goods and services that are implemented by him. If the second sum is less than the first, the company is entitled to compensation from the budget of the difference. If the second sum is greater than the first, the enterprise shall pay the difference to the budget.This is a scheme in which, of course, there are many nuances, exceptions, corrections and additions (which themselves are confused about the tax collectors, making and losing 80% of cases in courts of arbitration).Thus, the reduction in VAT rates, for example, 5% will reduce the amount of tax received by the budget not by 5%, and at a much greater magnitude.For example, costs the company to maintenance of production now amount to 1,000 rubles. In this 1000 rubles concluded 18% VAT, or about 153 rubles.The company thus sold products (goods or services) for 1300 rubles, respectively, we obtain the VAT (the same 18%) in the amount of 198 rubles. Consequently, it pays to budget 198 - 153 = 45 rubles.By reducing the VAT rate to 13%, which is five percentage points, the company will pay to the budget, only 35 rubles, or about 78% from the previous payment. This is despite the fact that the price of goods or services to such a decline is likely not affected because the price is a function of supply and demand, rather than the value of the goods or services.Thus, while reducing the VAT rate increases the rate of return of goods and services. This reduction in benefit to importers, who pay VAT on goods crossing the border (with the "rastomazhivanii"). This decrease is disadvantageous to exporters who receive VAT from the budget at the intersection of the goods or the sale of services abroad (or at least indifferent to them).This decrease can (under certain other conditions) lead to a reduction of money supply needed to serve the economy.The influence of such a decline on inflation is ambiguous, in different directions and, in my opinion, negligible.In general, a large economic feasibility of such an event I can not see. From a political point of view, this event is likely to have advantages, but I do not know about them.Luke
AbdullaLong-liverGlukhov! You have achieved what they wanted: no longer argue with you will not. Stay in your ignorance! All the best!

AbdullaLong-liverQuote: Gluck wrote 12.07.2006 - 9:30That there has been a key here vaprots - Will reduce the VAT rate to lower the price of goods or services? In the bare theory should lead to lower prices, but I fear that in practice this does not happen.Even in the bare theory this can not happen. Because the price is determined by supply and demand, rather than the size of costs the seller. If the buyer is willing to buy for 10 rubles, of which the seller pays 2 rubles to the state, the latter will be stupid if the price will reduce to 8 rubles, after the abolition of the tax. Yes, it is possible to reduce it to the competition. But who said that such a possibility, and he was not there before? That is, there is competition, and with VAT and without it :-)


Vitaliy GluhovNewcomer"Great" political economists and polemicists forum of the newspaper "Izvestia", and in combination, and even inveterate Democrats and human rights defenders, shutting me access to this forum, launched a "violent" discussion for the citizens on the VAT.Offer visitors a forum to make it clear: to whom the benefit of the VAT, read the short note of the "Newspapers"."Gazeta" by reading a research note the Accounting Chamber, revealed the true state of the return of VAT."The main conclusion: the situation with the VAT refund is actually out of control, the losses have a budget, and honest taxpayers ... But the main measure to streamline the VAT refund JV sees the introduction of special VAT invoices, implying that the tax payment shall be made by separate payment orders, and the amount of tax - credited to a special account at the bank. "As we see VAT and its return has long been acting in the interests of corrupt officials, debug mechanism for siphoning money from the budget. And in this situation will not help, proposed by the Accounting Chamber, the VAT account. Only the complete abolition of the VAT, the introduction of transparent and clear of taxes, control government, from society, can stop this orgy.Mojahead, as you can see, your "toothy" comrades, who were to me, in your understanding to eat, were rotten teeth, and, apparently, so your boss has blocked me to login Izvestia.You also need to change the nickname. Called himself a great name Mojahead, and acting like a hysterical girl of easy virtue, and even swearing dirty words. Entity must comply with the form, ie, name, and another house number 6 could not be avoided. And take care of his ass, and that no one would think.It is a pity, of course, man! Taught him, taught life, so that there was bald, and he learned only the dirty words.Gluck, you read made you a message, where the talk about pampering ideas and think about what was said. After all, ideas and theories - it is not fashionable clothes for frondiruyuschego intellectual, but a reflection of reality in a concentrated form. So the idea, or could be, or may be just their appearance. And if there is a scientific theory, it can not be good practice.Incidentally, this interpretation of the cost, I said, is the basis of the labor theory of value, which held all the best minds in political economy, and out of mischief, but for the sake of the case.In view of the police methods of management of your superiors, which closed me access to the forum and for you to decide what god you pray, I have to go to a different address, and make this message.Come to the site "Politucheba" where there are no police in the Democratic ryadya, inhale a breath of freedom, feel the joy of free communication, and act as your heart dictates, and not in favor of the nearest head.See http://rpr.ur.ru/article/RNDS-izvestia.doc
 Vitaly Glukhov, editor of "Politucheba"Total posts: 3 | Joined: 08.06.2006 - 05:33 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 18:36
AbdullaLong-liver
     Well, Glukhov, and fruit!Yes Does he think that there is no more important issues than "shut him access to the forum."...He looked at his old profile - it works. No Glukhov not expelled. So it means a trivial variant of PR? Pretend to be persecuted?Oh, Glukhov Glukhov .... :-)

Total Posts: 7811 | Joined: 18.04.2005 - 22:05 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 19:47
Vitaly GlukhovParty
      Many thanks to the forum administrator that I was allowed to answer the charges against me, and also allowed to continue to participate in this discussion [1].Last post by Abdullah could, of course, not to comment, but apparently this is common error, and therefore worth more to stop.First, Abdullah is himself to answer the question: what will be determined by the price of goods, where demand and supply equalize? Second, if the price of goods varies as the average market, the seller is an individual, and therefore the manufacturer, captive to install it yourself. Commodity prices, among other things, are not formed on the basis of stupidity or intelligence of any manufacturer, and are formed as the cost of production plus the average rate of return on invested capital, of course, that all this happens in a free flow of capital. In a monopoly the price is added to the monopoly profit, as a tribute to the monopolist.If Abdullah understood the law of competition, he would not have argued: "Yes, it is possible to reduce it to the competition. But who said that such a possibility, and he was not there before? That is, there is competition, and with VAT and without it. " Competition is not an opportunity is given, and makes for the sake of survival, lower prices for goods and services. Bole However, it should be understood that any additional tax is one of the constraints of overall development, renovation of production, and pushes entrepreneurs on the path of cheaper labor. This, in turn, leads to the degradation and extinction of the population.(Message edited by Vitaly Glukhov 12.07.2006 - 20:01)Editor of the site "Politucheba"Total Posts: 104 | Joined: 06.06.2006 - 12:24 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 19:56AbdullaLong-liver
     Risen! Hooray!

Total Posts: 7811 | Joined: 18.04.2005 - 22:05 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 20:09Vitaly GlukhovParty
      Dear, forum administrator, can you return my messages to the branch of the union, but it turns out nonsense when I objected, but my messages and there are no answers, and to respond to this thread I am not allowed.
Editor of the site "Politucheba"

Total Posts: 104 | Joined: 06.06.2006 - 12:24 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 20:15MojaheadLong-liver
    (Plaintively, anxiously): Can you, Mr. V. Glukhov, editor of "Politucheba" return to his native polituchebe - eh? With the economy you have, quite frankly, the relationship, then do not add up ...
-----You can not ignore the obvious! (C), Ishaq Mujahideen ...

Total Posts: 3711 | Joined: 18.04.2005 - 23:50 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 20:22AbdullaLong-liver
     I visited the site, Mr. Glukhov.Interestingly, sometimes visit the mental hospital. But the real danger to attend. A virtual - interesting.For example, there is a theme of "philosophical club." There's a lengthy article discusses "how do we revive the Pioneer movement." I do not understand: whether the pioneers - the major philosophers, or philosophers have no other order than the Pioneer movement.There is also a topic, called "For the new councils of deputies working in town and country".There is a theme of "Culture", starting a phrase worthy of writing the fifth grade student: "Culture is, in any country."Is there even a "news".What you think, the very latest news?You'd never guess!I quote verbatim:"The story of how" democratic "to straighten out dissent in our news."Under this heading of this transcript posted on our forum.Apparently, the discussion on our forum - a novelty in the other.However, the same is published (and that, and another, for some reason, in Word, and not HTML) and in the "article". Author of "Articles" - Mr. Glukhov. Do not want to same Glukhov say it - he is the author of all the posts. Posts Luke, for example?In short: I invite all to the site "politucheba" http://rpr.ur.ru/ relax, laugh, in short, lift your spirits!p / sGlukhov! Where is my fee for advertising on your website?(Message edited by Moderator 12.07.2006 - 21:00)Total Posts: 7811 | Joined: 18.04.2005 - 22:05 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 20:47Vitaly GlukhovParty
      Good for you, Abdullah! I see you are beginning to move in the right direction, you see, after a number of years and attain the necessary development if you stop lying. Often the main site "Politucheba" looked. Just do not misinterpret the texts. The site says: "No society can not exist outside of culture. In the culture of any nation are manifested by all of her life, including economic characteristics, so I suggest starting at this Forum, a separate topic for discussion of contemporary culture .. ".And do not tushuysya. This is yet simplicity and clarity, for you seem to discipleship, but eventually will and understanding. Be of good cheer!Editor of the site "Politucheba"

Total Posts: 104 | Joined: 06.06.2006 - 12:24 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 21:30LukeLong-liver
      Quote from: Vitaly Glukhov wrote 12.07.2006 - 21:30Tushuysya ... not. This is yet simplicity and clarity, for you seem to discipleship, but eventually will and understanding. Be of good cheer!Well, pure genius! Titanium boiling thoughts! Generator and electric motor in a glass! Well, really, well done!My God, what just can not stand on the surface of the freedom of speech ... first to emerge are that bit easier ... and only bubbles from them! ...Dear "Editor" and "teacher", you would need to finish my studies - at least to the level of secondary education. People laugh, of course, a necessary and good, but just do it cause it's better to let a professional and with a serious air, but knowing full well what you are doing. And you get funny, but very stupid - as attempts to drinkers in the pub to talk "about life." And drunken conversations more sense than to your words.Luke

Total Posts: 601 | Joined: 16.02.2006 - 11:13 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 21:51AbdullaLong-liver
     Where the fee, deaf?

Total Posts: 7811 | Joined: 18.04.2005 - 22:05 | Posted on: 12.07.2006 - 23:37Aleksandr KhabarovLong-liver
    A sign with the work of Glukhov Polyuha?And if you know, I wonder what his opinion on this?

Total Posts: 4325 | Joined: 19.04.2005 - 04:46 | Posted on: 13.07.2006 - 00:01AbdullaLong-liver
     This - his rival. And the competition - do not favor.

Total Posts: 7811 | Joined: 18.04.2005 - 22:05 | Posted on: 13.07.2006 - 00:15http://rpr.ur.ru/article/RNDS-izvestia.docPolitucheba. Ekaterinburg, 2006.[1] I should not have thanked the administration of the forum "Izvestia", because I was allowed to respond to the attacks of Forum notebooks, hoping for their honesty, as it was a trick. At the moment, the administration blocked all entrances to the forum. And while the profile remains valid, my messages do not pass.For clarity of understanding of my relationship with the administration of the forum "News" offer readers an excerpt from a fairy tale by Alexander Pushkin, "On the Priest and His Workman Balda".I went and sat by the sea;There he became a rope twistYes its end in a sea of ​​wet,That's up from the sea got old devil:"Why are you, Balda, we got to?"- "Yes, that's like a rope Sea puckerYes, you cursed tribe pose ... "Besa old then took the dullness."Tell me, what a disgrace?"- "What for? You are not flesh dues,Do not remember the due date;Here we will uzho fun,You dog, a great hindrance. "
Editor of the site "Politucheba-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------Tax military timeAlexei Kudrin, causing a nuclear attack on supporters of the VAT reductionReducing taxes is fraught with the weakening of the nuclear potential. This is a new argument against the Ministry of Finance to reduce VAT. Yesterday he gave Deputy Prime Minister - Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, speaking at the sixth annual tax conference of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs (RSPP). His logic is that if reducing VAT to 12%, the budget will miss about 2% of GDP, which is comparable with all expenditures for national defense. If we assume that such costs should be reduced, the country's defense will decrease, and the nuclear shield collapses. So long and up to a surprise attack on Russia.Overheating Alexei KudrinHowever, while military action did not go beyond the corridors of ministries and departments. The main warring parties in the government: the Ministry of Finance, which favors maintaining the current 18-percent VAT rate, and the Ministry of Economic Development, insists on reducing VAT to 12%. Ministry of Economic Development stands on the side and the business (RSPP stands at 10% rate). As stated yesterday, the president of RSPP, Alexander Shokhin, a radical reduction in VAT would lead to restructuring of the economy ...According to Kudrin, the reduction in VAT will not lead to a restructuring of the economy: "It is absolutely neutral tax. Only one that shows a steady growth after the growth of GDP." According to him, we must also bear in mind that the VAT - a tax on the demand, which is now beyond all limits. According to Kudrin, the last three years demand growth surpasses 15%, while GDP behaved much more modest (in 2007 + 8.1%). "Reduce the tax demand in this situation - it is only to increase the gap," - he said. According to him, it's still cool that instead of overheating in the economy to pour kerosene."The world economists say that in Russia the bad economic advisers, who do not understand such simple things," - said Kudrin. Names Deputy Prime Minister - Minister of Finance did not call. Meanwhile, statements that Russia's economy is no heat, and the decrease in VAT - one of the main tools of structural changes in the economy, not just played presidential aide Arkady Dvorkovich and Deputy Minister of Economic Development Stanislav Voskresensky. They are the authors of the idea of ​​replacing the VAT sales tax. "This proposal, I do not want to even discuss. Since none of the prominent economists do not support it" - threw another stone in their garden Kudrin.Stanislav Voskresensky subcooling"For me, these economists do not exist. Moreover, a number of international organizations today fell substantially the level of tax expertise. And before you give advice to Russia in the tax area, a good idea, at least qualitatively explore the latest trends and challenges in the tax area in the world , "- said Stanislav Voskresensky Kudrin statement.In general, the performance of the deputy minister of economic development (he performed two hours after Kudrin as he had already left) has turned out, perhaps not as emotional as that of Deputy Prime Minister - Minister of Finance. But it is not just limited to the issue of VAT reduction. "This year, the President and the Prime Minister made keynote speeches on the future development of the country. Early consensus is that the economy should be a qualitative change in the next 10 years" - said the deputy minister. According to him, any proposed measures in the tax area should be evaluated for how they help achieve the objectives of the innovation scenario and should be systematic. And, moreover, should be directed at strengthening the incentive function of the tax system.According to the Resurrection, this year should be made more complex solutions. The first - the unification of VAT at 12%. "In some sectors there is an imbalance of supply and demand. Therefore, prices rise, sometimes exceeding the world level. In order to eliminate the imbalance should be as easy as possible to launch new investment projects. VAT reduction - one of the stimulus more rapid implementation of these projects", - said the Resurrection. Second - the liberalization of the depreciation policy. For example, increasing the bonus depreciation, for which he has repeatedly expressed and entrepreneurs. Third - tax policy measures to stimulate the creation in Russia of the financial center. "In all these areas with a high probability solutions will be accepted until the end of summer" - no doubt about the Resurrection.25.06.2008 / Galina LyashenkoMaterial published in the "Gazette" № 117 of 26.06.2008g.
Get rid of the strangleholdChemezov joined the fight for the reduction in VATIn the struggle for the reduction in rates of value added tax (VAT), including the public sector. General Director of "Russian Technologies" Chemezov sent to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin a letter requesting to lower the rate to 12 percent. In his view, the machine building sector suffocates the tax burden. In turn, opponents Chemezov insist that the VAT reduction will result in irreparable damage to the Russian budget system, especially in light of the next pension reform.Discussion about the need to reduce the most corrupt, as the head of the Federal Customs Service Andrei Belyaninov, the tax began in February 2008 with a speech by Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the State Council. In all likelihood, the desire to enter the relief was associated not only with the need to make life easier for the Russian processing industry, but also with some high-profile cases, one way or another associated with violations of the rules of payment of VAT. Specific numbers decrease from the current 18 percent (some products are subject to a 10 percent tax, and exporters do not pay it at all) if not called, although some hot heads, and offered to do to eliminate this fiscal instrument, replacing it with a sales tax.The first who spoke in favor of tax cuts domestic entrepreneurs were presented by several associations. They offered to drop the rate to 10 percent immediately, leveling it with the size of the tax for the "privileged" group of products. However, this idea was firmly locked Minister of Finance Alexei Kudrin, the "evil genius" of the new tax reform. Subsequently, the start of trading, that is connected to the side of the business management expert and the Ministry of Economic Development president. They identified the future rate at 12-13 percent, but again Kudrin was adamant, pushing more and more objections to the changes. VATValue added tax was introduced in Russia in 1992. He was previously the maximum rate was 28 percent, then was lowered to 20 percent, and in 2004 declined to 18 percent. A number of goods subject to a 10 percent tax, in particular, basic food, baby products and even the media and books, except for the publications' advertising and erotic nature. "Although Kudrin and Economic considered a liberal in this respect he is not a liberal strongly opposes any attack on the VAT. And people listen to him, despite the fact that the reverse view of the situation follows the Prime Minister himself. Kudrin's objections are obvious. The budget will lose a significant portion of their income. Estimates expressed very different, but mostly fluctuate around 2 percent of GDP, or 700-800 billion rubles a year.
 According to the head of the Finance Ministry, tax cuts will hit hardest on education and health, as well as pensions. The fact that the parallel plan to reform the unified social tax, which resulted in the Pension Fund will be even more dependent on budgetary support. And that is what may or may not be enough, because the state probably will not be able to compensate for lost income, even income earned from oil and gas.Kudrin scares and rising inflation, coupled with the overheating of the domestic economy, as demand in the country and so much more than the offer (which seems rather odd given the fact that with a decrease in taxes output should grow). Finally, in the opinion of the chief financier of the country, the reform will benefit only a few companies, but it is not those who are counting on the government. All the cream must collect, trade, transport and communications, but these areas are developed and so well.International financial institutions, including the IMF and World Bank, Kudrin support in its efforts to prevent tax cuts. In particular, the IMF considers it reasonable to reduce the income tax or a single social tax, and all the problems associated with the VAT due, according to IMF experts, poor tax administration.Proponents of tax cuts put forward a variety of arguments to support their point of view. In particular, the ministry did not say anything terrible losses in the budget at first. In the first place because the tax collection will increase (called the figure of the gain in 0.6-0.7 percent of GDP), which partially compensates for the loss. In addition, due to intensive economic growth the state will be able to collect more taxes than in the case of VAT will remain the same. As a result, by 2012 all the negative consequences of the reduction will come to naught.Many observers cite the fact that the budget surplus is much more than 800 billion rubles promised by the Minister as a loss. However, a significant portion of that surplus belongs to the oil and gas revenues, and some of their officials is considered a "sacred cow" of the Russian budget.Now to a discussion about VAT joined the public sector and businesses. Chemezov required to resolve the issue of tax "as soon as possible." "The pilots have a concept" decision point "- quoted letter to general director of" Russian Technologies "," Kommersant, "- After passing this point to stop the rise of the aircraft is no longer possible." A colorful allegory merely states the fact that without weakening the tax stranglehold Russia has finally become a supplier of energy in the world market.
 Ministry of Economic Development supports Chemezov, noting that the basic income tax in the budget are just from non-oil sectors, providing up to 60 percent of revenues. But trade brings only 6 percent. Therefore, the greatest benefit from the VAT reduction will manufacturing. State Corporation "Russian Technologies" was established on the basis of "Rosoboronexport". It will include 426 companies, including "VSMPO-AVISMA," AvtoVAZ "Oboronprom" and "RusSpetsStal" and the airline "Russia", "Kavminvodyavia", "Orenburg Airlines" and "Saratov airlines".Entrepreneurs also endorsed the statement Chemezov, considering that the reduction rate is capable of providing the structural changes in the economy by stimulating investment in production development. In particular, note in the union, it will help and in-depth treatment in the most oil and gas industry. We know that gasoline can earn much more than crude oil, and a gain for the oil companies will not be superfluous. High-tech industry, and this reduction is necessary as the air at all.
 In order to balance the budget, industry offer to take additional measures, including the promotion of the investment process. In this case, the loss of tax arrears to the treasury will be able to quickly compensate and eventually reduced to zero.A final decision on matters of such a fierce debate in the higher echelons of power, have to wait long. Proposals to reduce the VAT included in the concept of the development of Russia up to 2020, developed by the Ministry of Economic Development. Review of the concept will be held on September 11. If the leadership will give the nod to the country's transformation, the tax will be reduced, perhaps as early as 2009.Dmitry WinkiesSource: Lenta.ru
In Moscow, several searches are tax inspections10:31 RBC daily in Moscow today are searched in several buildings of the Federal Tax Service, including the city Department of the Federal Tax Service, said the law enforcement bodies of the capital. According to preliminary data, searches are related to the criminal case of theft in recovering VAT. Also, according to available information, several staff members searched the inspection included in the list Magnitsky.In Moscow, a number of tax inspections, as well as in urban governance FTS searches are conducted, reports RBC news agency reports with reference to law enforcement authorities of the capital. According to reports, investigations related to criminal investigation of major embezzlement schemes illegal reimbursement of value added tax (VAT).In addition, there is information that the searches are also in the house of the deputy head of the FNS management in Moscow Olga Chernichuk in charge of VAT refunds."From nine o'clock in the control room at FNS Moscow on Bolshaya Tula, 15, and the Tax Inspectorate № 28 investigators conducting searches. In addition, early in the morning and searched the house is the deputy head of the Russian Federation in Moscow UFNS Olga Chernichuk. The reasons for the searches are not reported, "- also confirmed the source in Moscow law enforcement agencies.It clarifies the agency, the seven members of the 28th inspection of the South-West district of Moscow appear in the list of 60 officials who are denied entry into the EU and the U.S. because of the case Magnitsky.November 16, 2009 Lawyer of the investment fund Hermitage Capital Management, Sergei Magnitsky, accused of tax evasion with the organization, died in prison, "Butyrka." According to the Prosecutor General's Office, the death of Magnitsky, who was 37 years old, was caused by cardiovascular disease.Until a formal comments either in the Moscow police nor the Federal Tax Service has failed.Read more: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2011/04/06/focus/562949980007536