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Money (any price)

   Branch from the forum site "Derbent Wall Author: Administrator Date: 22.02.2008 14:44:55 Gluhov
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Post Posted: Wed April 18, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: Money Reply with quote Rediscovering our forum thread about the money, prefacing her message Klarka, from the old Forum. We hope that the new branch will be just as interesting, objective and specific.
Klark Registered: 28.10.2005 Posts: 76 Posted: November 15, 2005 12:45 pm Today, there is no point debating about money at all, since this issue has long been settled. As correctly pointed out by Marx, quoting statements of Gladstone, that even love is not made so many stupid people, how much sophistication about the nature of money. In classical political economy had already been extensively reviewed this issue. But it is makes sense to analyze the role of money and turning them into depending on the specific relationships that exist in one or another system. How could the reader to see the site in the work of Glukhova and V. Petukhov, "The general theory of labor value, in some detail the essence of money in a monopoly of the state, and how their role is modified, depending on changes in property relations. Even more important, to date, is the analysis of the ruling circles in dealing with money. If you noticed, dear Firmer, and if you follow the statements of the ruling cabinet, then you should keep in mind the recent statements by Mr. Kudrin and Gref, who promised in 2007 to make the ruble convertible. The answer to this statement was an article "Who Forewarned is forearmed," where no ambiguity is shown that this scam will cost the country. And just yesterday the head of the Central Bank Sergey Ignatiev, on its approval in the Duma, said that the Bank of Russia will be able to let the ruble "float freely" only after 3-5 years. So who, one wonders, is right? Who advocate a more balanced and responsible position, with Gref, Kudrin or Ignatieff? And also the fact that pursuing these or other leaders making such statements? And how does this affect us? By answering these questions, you will be able to do more accurate and balanced, instead of acting by accident. I hope that by that you are aiming for. Sincerely, Klark. Back to top Send private message Publicist Registered: 18.04.2007 Posts: 74
SoobschenieDobavleno: Wed April 18, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Reply with quote The ongoing struggle of power against a strong ruble is increasingly becoming comical. Arguments of the proponents of weakening the ruble has almost gone, although still enough reserves. Now they're starting to contradict themselves. If earlier, withdrawing money from the country's economy, the government argued that the "extra" money is not secured, only hinder our economy (Americans never interfere with the money) and still crying about the lack of foreign investment, but now, with the arrival of foreign investor, and they became a big problem. Last week, the monetary authorities are concerned about the influx of foreign capital into Russia. Deputy Chairman of the Central Bank Konstantin Korishchenko called inflow of foreign capital a major problem and headache. "Capital inflows and investment - is not the oil and gas revenues, sterilize these flows do not succeed, and therefore a high probability and the inflationary effect," - said Korishchenko. Soon, our officials of the Central Bank and Ministry of Finance will tighten any sneeze to justify the inflation that so they like. So how can extort money from the pockets of Russians and arbitrarily apply a monetary unit, making money out of it billions. Back to top Send private message Publicist
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SoobschenieDobavleno: Sat May 5, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote It seems that the Ministry of Finance, announced a program to combat financial illiteracy, stayed with a joke and lured on April 1 with the first of May. Bankers undertook to teach people financial literacy! You may think that they are willing to tell people how they diddle with the loans through all sorts of fees, as a depreciating asset, population etc. Officials of the Ministry of Finance, continue to argue that a weak ruble is good for the country and its people that the Stabilization Fund - is the oil money that investment in the economy will lead to inflation and so on, themselves would cost to do the elimination of financial illiteracy, not teach others . Even more ridiculous and suspicious looking statements by the Finance Ministry that they alone can not establish "a major program (to sell the people) to eliminate financial illiteracy in Russia, and therefore seek help from the World Bank. But this bank is known to everyone thinks the citizen is ready to develop anything, just the money paid. The Russian Finance Ministry is, ordering the WB program, not only prepared to pay with public money, amounting to several millions of dollars, but hoped that in conjunction with the World Bank are more reliable than confuse people all sorts of calculations and arguments about the economy. And what about the banks themselves? Treasury Stabilization Fund has invested in U.S. equities with a negative return, given the inflation of the dollar. Vnesheconombank (VEB), managing nearly 90% of pension funds, was unable to beat inflation. According to published information on the site of VEB, the yield of investment funds of citizens in the past 12 months amounted to 6.47%. So what do we need to be addressed, if indeed raise the question of efficient use of existing resources, rather than fooling the citizens? Back to top Send private message Administrator Site Admin Registered: 04.04.2007 Posts: 38
SoobschenieDobavleno: Sun May 6, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: ALL COSTS (from reduced) Reply with quote ALL COSTS Kudrin reiterated recently confirmed his fondness for paradoxical. And much of that kind, namely: the paradoxical at all costs! He said, as I understood, as follows: to increase the exchange rate at 5% of the country should allow inflation of ten per cent. One of the three. Either this is a joke or a mockery of the public, or the heroic efforts of a skilled rider, who nobly risking, trying, for the benefit of all, to curb the wild mustang world economy and international finance. Assume that this is - the case of the latter. Then we see that right before our eyes, the economic collapse of the empire, panic, stock exchanges, with clusters of skyscrapers fall clerks and millionaires, they smoke storage of finished goods, the nation, represented by their states, refuse to pay each other on their foreign loans, but "exchangers "Our big cities do not have enough chalk - dollar, euro, yuan, yen and pound all sorts of competing in the rate of inflation for months, not weeks, and on days and hours ... And just proud Belarusian "bunny" kept on the waves with confidence in the maelstrom of world cataclysm, being rooted in the "golden billion" of his CB! ... Well, if so, then - YES! It was then that Kudrin - a financial genius who "admits" only 10%, so that - to reach those "five". Praise and glory to him then! After all, we do not drown, but, at least, "hold on afloat ... However, what we see in reality? Oil and gold is steadily becoming more expensive. This, of course, invalidates the whole world and all the paper with water marks. (Including the beloved U.S. dollar). Though not every National Bank in this regard so sad ... But, in fact, that's all - not against us, but just the opposite! So what does it again "paradoksalnichaet" our minister of finance? Dare suggest: it's all because Kudrin is tacit, but constant polemical rivalry with Ludwig Erhard, who is convinced that "inflation - is not an objective law of development, and it fools of Governors State." And therefore, even despite the fact that, say, on the street is not going no rain, it is still a stubborn "paradox" makes us all take ... boring umbrella. And everything is nothing, except that, here, for his exquisite taste for this "economic paradoksalistike" all we are paying exorbitantly high price, namely: firstly, tolerant "state" nonsense ordered in theft of national wealth and, secondly, tolerate complete loss of faith in humanity, which is contrary to any logic, "makes an appearance" if the course of the Ministry of Finance - is nothing but ... "economy class"! Or maybe all of us to take, and officially ... go crazy! Let them think the decree will take. Then, it is all we have, it is "legally" with pleasure "relax" and, finally, quietly (and happily! - Ask a psychiatrist), "cool"'ll live ...
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SoobschenieDobavleno: Tue May 15, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote As reported by "Kommersant": " Quote: The head of the Ministry of Economic Development German Gref, at a meeting with President Vladimir Putin called the winners of the money management RVC MEDT. According to the minister, to manage money RVC will CJSC VTB Asset Management, created in conjunction with the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development and several other foreign participants, but majority-owned VTB, "Bioprocess Capital Partners" and "mixed group with the largest Israel Fund Tamir Fishman "- JSC" Finance Trust. Simply put, German Gref, however vaguely, and with some restraint (which means "some other foreign participants?" - Or: "... a majority owned VTB," Bioprocess Capital Partners "and" mixed group with the participation of Israel's largest fund Tamir Fishman "- JSC" Finance Trust - So who has the majority?), explained that Russia will develop the foreigners, but for the Russian money. And as history has shown the last few decades, the Russians did all this on their skin felt, these cunning aliens at least someone will develop, if only the money paid. That's only then it is impossible to understand what and whom they have developed? Back to top Send private message Student


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SoobschenieDobavleno: Mon May 21, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Reply with quote On Friday, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin has decided to clarify he made on Wednesday during a lecture at the Higher School of Economics, which further raise questions. As commented on the Nezavisimaya Gazeta: Quote: "On the sidelines of a meeting of finance ministers of the Group of Eight in Germany, he told reporters that he was" misunderstood "and that" any bank or financial crisis does not threaten Russia. While everyone and everything is understood correctly. Just Kudrin said the government should limit its presence in economic activities, including in the banking system as "part of the state reduces its transparency." Strange idea at Kudrin state, which, according to the Minister of Finance of the State, and only thinks of how to deceive people, which it had volunteered to defend and protect their interests. But in this case, the minister rather human. The current state closed the interests of a small group of persons who are not protected and does not represent the interests of the majority. Yes, that's conclusions, he does not hold. Retreat of the state of control over financial flows, will do the same, but only to individuals, individual companies and other states. In essence, the state must pass under the control of the people, and finance and monopoly - under state control. Not the state's withdrawal from the sphere of finance can remedy the situation, and complete overhauls of the state. Change in the principles of its formation and control by the people. Back to top Send private message Nikolai Baibakov
Registered: 21.05.2007 Posts: 59 SoobschenieDobavleno: Mon May 21, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: Reply with quote Student, criticizing Kudrin did not notice the chief, Alexei Kudrin, gave a warning to its citizens, expressed their concern at the risk of losing office. And in the Higher School of Economics and Friday in Germany's Finance Minister told that the Russian "bad loans" and they are all very similar to what took place in Indonesia, Thailand, Korea, Hong Kong and other countries. Quote: "State intervention in the economy, as well as the distribution of loans by personal connections in government and business completed in 1998 fall in GDP in Asian countries from minus 7.4 to minus 13.1%, - Has warned the finance minister. Kudrin made a statement that the state-owned companies recruit heavily loans under state guarantee that the country is doing a hostage, the officials enrich themselves, endangering the entire financial system of the country, and that sluchae bankruptcy, the government will be forced to repay these loans, which will lead to a default . The fact that Kudrin proposes no sure way out of this situation, it's the secondary issue. And not allow him the position to talk about the revolutionary ways of rebuilding the state. But another minister, German Gref, sided with the state-owned companies spiraling foreign loans. On Saturday, German Gref, in fact, supported the "bold" investment policy of the state-owned companies, pledging that "government will not allow their default." Commenting on the thesis Kudrin too large borrowings of state companies, Gref said that "we have every opportunity to avoid any defaults. Moreover, Gref pointed to the possible ways of combating the probability of insolvency of state companies. According to the minister, the state-owned companies have large debts, but at the same time they have and great assets. Selling some assets, it will be possible to avoid a possible hole in the balance. As you can see, a fighter with "corruption", defends the interests of the officials supervising state-owned and soothes people, that nothing terrible happens. Well, rasprodadim remaining state-owned enterprises, for debts that have created others. Well, there will be another default in Russia, but so what? Russia is no stranger ... Back to top Send private message Dr. Registered: 24.05.2007 Posts: 1
SoobschenieDobavleno: Thu May 24, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Recently formed the impression that our financial officials are in a state of prostration, mental disorder, and can never be defined with the condition of the Russian economy and its financial system. Then Finance Minister Kudrin threatened the country financial collapse, default and all sorts of other horrors, he starts to say that Quote: "Default is not threatened, the debts do not pull", that "Russia's economy has a high margin of safety. Country does not threaten to default and banking crisis. " "Kommersant" newspaper reports that "officials are choosing between the ruble and inflation. And can not agree. " Quote: "Yesterday, officers continued the discussion about how - continues to" Kommersant "newspaper, - the effect of a massive capital inflow to Russia for inflation and exchange rate. Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin said the ruble ceased to be considered inevitable, and the head of the Expert Department Arkady Dvorkovich president urged not to worry about money supply growth. The market is still waiting for that sooner or later, but will strengthen the ruble. " Can you imagine what will start happening in medicine, if you will allow physicians to practice, even those not familiar with the human body? If the doctor doubts the role that performs heart, allowed him to be a heart surgeon? So why do we dispose of finance people who have not yet learned that there is money and what role they play in society? The impact on the economy of the country exchange rate, and that comes from its capacity or impairment? Back to top Send private message Klark Registered: 06.04.2007 Posts: 168 Location: Russia
SoobschenieDobavleno: Tue June 5, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: Reply with quote Kudrin, urging Russians to invest in Russian stocks, while given all clear that he does not believe in themselves, Finance Ministry, which he directs, and the state. "National Welfare Fund will be invested in stocks and bonds only abroad", - told reporters on Wednesday evening, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin. His position "the best" Finance Minister explained that the possibility of investing pension funds in Russia appears only after 2010 (apparently after the departure from the post of Finance Minister Kudrin), when the weakened capital inflows and inflation to fall to 5-6% per year, though, More recently, Kudrin said that in 2008 inflation will not exceed 4%. But that was yesterday. But today he thinks otherwise. "Best" Minister of Finance, continues to actively support the economy of foreign countries, and not come up or anything better to do than to invest public money in foreign stocks and bonds with low income who can not even compensate for the emerging growth of prices, because the government plans to significantly higher prices Russia - 8% in 2007 and 7,5% in 2008. It seems that this year, Kudrin will once again be named the Minister of Finance.

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